Experimental weekend & Plunder Only
Hey everybody – a little while ago, we posted a poll here on NaughtyDog.com asking what playlists you would be interested in. The top two results were a “Plunder Only” playlist and two variations on a “Crushing” playlist. Well, we have some good news!
Based on this poll and other collected community input we have decided to try a couple things out. This weekend we are instituting a “Plunder Only” playlist based on the overwhelming feedback and we’re making one other (temporary) change as well. Rather than add two new playlists at once we are going to try an experiment.
For this Experimental Weekend only, player health in ALL game types will be lowered to 65% of the current player health. This is exactly the same as the Crushing settings, only Boosters will still be allowed. The experimental weekend will run from Friday, December 4 at 10:00 AM PST (what time is that in my city?) through Monday, December 7 at 11:00 AM PST (what time is that in my city?).
We are very interested in hearing from our community on how you feel about this change. Give the various game types a try with these new settings and let us know how you feel by responding to this blog post and our upcoming front page poll.
Be assured we take community feedback very seriously and we can’t wait to hear what you have to say.
Thanks and see you in the game!
[NOTE: “Plunder Only” is a permanent addition to our playlists in “Matchmaking.” The lowered player health is ONLY a test for this weekend—health will go back to normal on Monday, December 7. - Arne]
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GJ guys keep up the good job but a crushing playlist later will be cool and a 2vs2 or 3vs3 ect
those will be okay, but i think the one and only game mode missing is a 2v2v2v2v2. Its basically u and a partner against others and their partners. its called wingman in gears of war 2; it’s very intense and fun. I would love to see uncharted 2 with a similar mode!
yeah that would be cool
Yeah, that would be pretty awesome. I’m quite upset that I missed that weekend - ever since the game came out I’ve wanted to play online Crushing. :/
first off naughty dog has out done them selves with this game, it is by far the best game of 09!
second a good game type would be a game type where everyone has to be one person, no to of the same player skins, the game starts with a small card in the corner of your screen with for example sullys face on it, the player with the sully card has to hunt sully and sully only. If the player is sucsessful he will obtain the cad sully had and any cards he got off the players he killed
the name of the game is assassions
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Keep the job!!!! It’s perfect!!!! Thanks Naughty Dog!!!
Awesome stuff Naughty Dog, the new hit detection is amazing, I hope you guys keep it. I just want to say great job, and keep up the awesome work!
yeaaaa this is gunna be awesome!!!
the half health thinks sucks u guys r actually making uncharted 2like mw2 2 wich it sucks ,i hope u put the full health back as soon as posible ,the halh health thing makes the game wack!!!
well if everyone is at 65%, the only variation that happens is people die a bit faster...i never even noticed during that time...then agian i got uncharted 2 on the 5th of decemeber so i prolly thought that the hp was normal lol
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u2 goty
love the new health, seems much better, plunder only has been long time coming! thanks guys cannot fault this title at all!!!
Hey Naughty Dog please don’t keep this health “tweak” as a permanent feature for all game modes, I do believe like most hardcore fans of the game that there is a place for a “crushing mode” lobby I don’t like how now I am being punished for climbing and or being spotted by the enemy first, as now you can’t simply turn around and purely out shoot or get out shot be the guy who gets the drop on the other guy, also camping is slowly becoming more and more apparent and this is one of the reasons I don’t like MW2 and MGO please Naughty Dog don’t make this change permanent
Guys, lower health is the best change since the game was published. Now everything seems much more realistic and you don’t have to empty half of the clip to kill somebody. Thanks on a new map and just keep it that way. I woul really love to see some new downloadable skins coming. Keep up the good work!
I like the lower health because you can get more kills in a deatmatch. The resulte is that you get more money,too and you will be faster in a higher level. I like it:)
i agree with you competly about the 2v2 or 3v3 but the health now is bogus if anything make a playlist for this but if it stays like this i wont play anymore
i dont know how to add a comment so i just replied to this one. All i want to say is that i think that they should keep it like this way * better!
like how u guys lowered the health bu if thats the case then you should also lower the respond time if its faster to kill someone, and one more thing please please try to make clan tagsthat would be amazing
yeah ND needs to make a map pack it should include like some leves from uncharted 1 such as the last level on the ship with navarro or the treasure vault and throw in some new characters that would be sweet
they should add more comedy characters like a christmas themed characters or something
The plunder only us awesome, the half health is too even if i’m using invalid booster , pls make it permanent!!!
I love this half health and plunder only playlist! Please ND keep this half health !:D
HEALTH AS IT WAS!!!!!!!! As everyone has said, we play Uncharted because we LOVE the way it already was. If we wanted to deal with stupid whoever sees who first wins type of games, we would play MW2. I dont want to do that. Resistance 1 was my favorite online MP game. I was very excited for Resistance 2 multiplayer. To my surprise, they tried to emulate a MW2 formula...which I hated!! The thing I love about Resistance 1 was that even if someone snuck up on you from behind, If you were the better shooter/player, you could still come up on top. Please dont make the same mistakes that Insomniac mad with Resistance 2. I love Uncharted MO, its perfect the way it is.
But why? Doesn’t it make sense to have it so if you see someone first and you shoot them they die? I hate how it takes half a clip to kill someone. And headshots are useless they need to fix that. Plus it would be nice if they lowered respawn waiting to 5 seconds or 3 seconds. I understand this is they’re first competitive multi-player and they have a lot of great ideas, but fix these few problems and it would be amazing.
Changing the health would make the game suck for me. One thing I would like to see is the two guns from the ice cave mission with Tenzen in the game. The MP40 and that pistol. The MP40 is a mix of the FAL recoil & M4 firing rate, I love it.
Loved the crushing health! It was really fun!
65% health is great. Please keep it. I would also be glad if yo give us the oppurtunity to make our own game type lists, so we will not be obliged to play in game types we don’t like (as far as I’m concerned, “elimination").
65% health is great, because it makes AK-47 useful, rather than a toy-gun.
Thanks for bringing back double cash weekend ND!!! Just wanted to say I gave the experiment a try and I have to say that the heath tweak actually improved my game experience in the “Deathmatch” for sure. I also played the new “Plunder only” option, and while I like that game type, it seemed much more like organized suicide with reduced heath. Though take into consideration that I played with what had to be a confused noobie team because I was always grabbing the treasure solo with the opposing team killing me almost as soon as I did (they stomped us 5 zip!!) and I only got the chance to play “Plunder” once with reduced health. Keep the changes coming too, I think it’s great to have a team keeping the multiplayer as dynamic as ND does!! P.S. Is there any chance of an Epilogue like add-on in the future??
half the games i join are 3vs3… sigh.
Hey can u guys add some Celebrity Charecters please please
I would really love it
Hey i Have a question! I’m tired of playing as fat drake/lazarovic i wanna be skinny again?
yes there should be a crushing and a plunder playlist and the elimination playlists should play off of smaller maps
I think you need to keep the health at the reduce rate if not slightly lower. This is nothing to do with MW2, but it should only be 2 -3 squirts of an automatic not 4 -5 squirts which is 10 plus bullets. When it take so many bullets to kill someone they still have time to turn and punch you, or throw a grenade at you even if you jumped them. Also with the health so high it take the sidearms out of the game as you’d need to hit with EVERY bullet in one clip to down someone which is impossible. 4-5 bullets to kill is plenty from any type of gun
Dude I want 2vs2 and 3vs3 so bad.
Also would be cool if you could host matches like in Rainbow Six. That way you wouldn’t get into so many Lag-fests.
Of course that would allow people to take advantage of controlling who they play against and then they would get awards and trophies too easily…
Is the sanctuary glitch being worked out? You can throw the treasure over the edge and it sticks where no one can grab it. Other than that no changes were needed (i.e. health) and I’m surprised by how many complaints for such a masterpiece.
I have flip flopped on the health thing. Having played a fair bit last weekend and now playing this week, I’m really missing the 65% health. I probably died a few too many times in those last minute dashes to cover for my liking, but for those of us who don’t just rush in, you get full value for your shots, even way “off host.” (I’m playing in Australia, kudos to ND that this is playable against OS players.)
For Death match, I am defo behind lowered health, whether that’s 65% or a middle ground of 80% or something.
For snipers/pistoles games, I’m not so sure. The one hit kill nature of those games on crushing changes things drastically.
Didn’t play enough Pistol only games to comment.
I’d be happy with either a crushing playlist, or “Crushing Variants” of particular gametypes in regular lists.
yoo naughtdogg keep up the good work please make a 65% deathmatch room you dont have to change the whole game up just make a game type that would be awesome.
Uncharted 2 mulitplayer
I think it takes too long to respawn after you die.
8 seconds is too long for me
I hope they update it 5 seconds or less.
Holy cranberries you guys really listen to us.
Personally I hope the health thing flops, because I’ve adjusted and grown accustomed to the current health.
I would have liked a skilled objective playlist. No one really plays objectives like their suppost to except for plunder. Which is a shame. :\
I think lower health is a good idea. I would like the health to be more like MW2. I love U2 MP as it is, but having the health more like MW2’s would be better and make it more fun. As for being adjusted, you should at least give it a try and try to get used to it. I hope they have some sort of vote for the health thing.
wtf are you insane!?MW2 hp is all whacked out, you can unload on someone and they can flip around and kill you in 2 hits. the hp is too low with a strange regenration rate. like MW2 hp? play mw2…
I agree. Please dont change the health
Just wanted to say that I like the new health mode. Also I really like the lower respawn time, made the game a lot faster paced and more fun.
i think it’d be cool if they added a kill cam
Let’s take a look at the new Health System from a different angle. While those who are currently at higher levels +45 all received the benefit from playing under old Health System, I feel it would be very unfair to those who are either just starting or are currently at lower levels. While I understand that this was a test weekend, if NG plans to implement a new Health System in the future, it should be done by allowing a choice for all types of games (Easy, Normal, Hard, Crushing) with similar point multiplier as used the single player game for different difficulties. IMHO It would be extremely beneficial for us who play Survival or Co-op modes.
Personally I like the new health. It increases the pace of gameplay and really seems to level the playing field. I would like the change to stick but if not, I’m not going to stop playing what in my opinion is one of the top 5 games ever!
the changed health is great u guys should keep it like that its sweet
i like it , however 65% health lol, so people with half health booster have 32.5% lol so basicly if i trip over a pebble i die T_T . or get breathed on by the enemy, lol.
i agree i dig the plunder only but the health thing i dont like. i prefer the more health. its what makes this game this game.
This is very good. A CRUSHING playlist is what we need!! Or even a Crushing - Deathmatch and Crushing - Objectives (with plunder still included) as the two options.
I just got Modern Warfare 2 and they have like 25 different game modes and game types. Granted they have a larger install base but Uncharted 2 is going to stay steady strong for years to come! Good job with the Plunder only, so now add two playlists more:
Crushing Objectives
Crushing Deathmatch
in Dog we trust!
Hi, i don´t like the idea. if we only have 65%health me and others won´t play this game and i think that many people will be angry with this decision. I THINK THIS HONESTLY
i love the lower heal too. i no longer have to unload a clip into a guy to take him down. the only thing is can u raise the kill total to 100 now. most matches dont make it to the train exploding or the tank roll thro now.
hahahhaha!
The lowered health change looks interesting,can’t wait to see how lower health will change the way people play.
Just got back from playing a couple of death match rounds. I have to say I’m loving the this lowered health experiment. I find it way easier to kill someone. Opposed to having to waste a whole clip on another player and reload as another player rushes me. Also the plunder playlist makes it easier for us the players to play what we want. Nice job Naughty Dog...I’m looking forward to more of your updates
Im not in favor of crushing. The health system is perfect. Lower health will only make it like Call of Duty. Soon I wont be able to take cover because of the lower health rule already killed me before I even had a chance to take cover and everything will depend on luck. Being at the right place at the right time type of gameplay. Not mention how much the Uncharted online community might split up because of this.
Just add plunder already. Everyone asks for it, everyone votes for plunder as soon as it pops online. How hard is it to add a playlist? A patch isnt needed, so whats the deal?
i like it, i’m getting more kills, but more deaths as well. O well it’s still fun
I like 65% health. Maybe this will teach people from playing kamikaze style. If you know it is easier to die you will be much more careful. Should be more fun to throw a grande at group of people and shoot after. Any change even if experimental is welcomed. I love playing uncharted, it is so much fun that any old games is just boring.
Awesome work Naughty Dog, I think your game has reinvented 3rd person adventure/shooters you did to gaming industry what iPhone did to cell phone world. More people need to play Uncharted 2 to realize how amazing game it is.
BTW ‘The Fort’ was a nice addition, can we get more, possibly street from town big town, or similar.
I love the plunder only playlist, but I don’t really like the lowered health. I already stink. this is just going to amplify my stinkage.
I’ll manage, though. I like the idea of this update.
reduced health is awesome it make the game more statigable and now im like 5X better now since it is actully More realistic my vote is to keep it that way WHOSE WITH ME.....and of ur not with me that just proves how much u suck at the game
Basically how I feel too. I’m not sure a weekend is enough time (for me anyway) to adapt. Seems like I end up camping more
I LOVE this game however i like it the way it originally came out as far as the health meter goe’s also love the leader stat’s board need more co-op level’s(Fort is KOOL)to choose from as it gets old and lastly THE THING THAT UPSETS ME VERY MUCH IS QUIT’ERS DURING A MATCH PENALIZE THOSE PLAYERS SEVERELY WITH A HUGE TIME PENALTY OR A LOSS OF RANK! MAYBE BOTH thank you
-Krazy4StangZ_24 ~(Shawn)
Maybe you stink because you can’t get enough bullets into the enemy before they kill you, in that case the lower health makes you better.
With all due respect, why are you starting something new, when you still haven’t rectified many existing problems and still haven’t updated us on why players didn’t get double medal compensation?
You guys work hard, and deserve praise, but I and many others are not going to stand around without giving you fair criticism as well.
Faire enough BleachEX… I’m taking those words as mine.
ND should know that I and others more are still asking for a faire solution related to the 40k penalty and also the other sort of issues.
Thanks for not listen us!
You guys really need to stop complaining about the penalties. ND put it in the game to get people to stop quitting and it has done just that. The first week that this game came out nobody would ever finish a match. As soon as one team would start loosing they would disconnect. So if you want to blame someone blame all of the sore loosers out there!!
I had this happen. I was on the losing team and everyone except me dropped out and it was a brutal time getting slaughtered 40+ times! Ha!
I don’t personally have a problem with the penalty. I did offer them the suggestion of having to wait 20 minutes or more until you can play again. This seemed like a good alternative to losing money and levels.
I am more concerned about glitches, cheating, and other little problems I’ve reported to them. I hope they got the memo. Even if a simple Thanks in an e-mail. I’ve reported at least 15 bugs and issues to them. I understand they are very busy, but a little more feedback if possible would be nice.
And of course, the double medal thing really hurt. I didn’t know if I should play and hope they kept their end by reimbursing people eventually, or not waste my time.
The penalties can be very useful to keep the games going, however there are times when you have no choose to leave a game. Anyway the Experimental Weekend I like the lower health, but I think the healing time after you are wounded needs to be reduced, to make it even.
@Ultima12
I like how they tried forcing us to stay in a game, but 40k penalty? Im pretty darn sure their are better ways forcing us to stay in a game. 40k is too harsh for certain people. Thus why we have complaints. Its obviously an issue if you haven’t noticed.
Hey Naughty Dog, how about you deduct money according to their level? The higher your level, the more money deducted? Or how about the more you quit, the higher the penalty will be??
And some people need to STFU. Last week or so, I had “Connection Errors” exactly 3 times. Did not get penalized once. I can confirm this. If you click on quit, your obviously going to be penalized. If your first time, and 30 second penalty applies. Whats the big deal??
I never had this problem, and I think you guys whining about people quitting are making mountains out of molehills. The only reason I ever qiut was to go accept an invite to a party, and now I can’t join my friends without making them wait 10 plus minutes for my match to end… it’s rediculous.
The reason people dropped is because the way the teams are matched up is not right! Determining skill level of people by match wins does not tell you that they are skilled. The total kills to deaths is what the skill level should be based on because this is what really tells you how good someone is. That is why people dropped a lot.
Well there’s one problem with the penalty right now,i don’t know if it’s happened to me only but a few minutes ago while i was playing i got disconnected,i didn’t purposely quit just got disconnected when i logged back in i got penalized for something that wasn’t my fault. Multi Player has been laggy n buggy today since the update so please fix it.Stop penalizing me when it’s your fault Naughty Dog.
i don’t care about penalty’s, BUT IF THEY MAKE ME LEAVE THE GAME BECAUSE MY CONNECTION SUCKS AND I GO BACK TO LVL 1 LIKE I DID, THEN I WANT THOSE PENALTYS GONE
some people who get kicked out or get connection errors from games lose $40,000. is that supposed to happen?
the glitches hurt, good thing i can track them down and kill them
Agh, come on, shut up, are you all still annoyed about the non-doubled medal exp?
You can’t imagine how many bad (WORSE) things has happened to me with other videogames and videogames companies. Actually, I don’t really mind the double exp these days.
Get relaxed, shut up and play. Uncharted has been created by this reason.
I thought I presented a neutral and respectful comment. What’s your beef?
Anyways I share the sentiments of everyone else. It’s fine for this weekend and experiments. I don’t mind the option for Crushing health, but I like that you don’t die almost instantly. You get a chance to get away, or pull a counter maneuver with some skill, instead of dying, and waiting to re-spawn all the time. It’s one of the major reasons I choose to play Uncharted 2 over Call of Duty or Battlefield.
one more thing i think has to be fixed is when you assassinate someone from the back you are prone to getting owned by enemies due to the fact that once the assassnation motion is complete, your character is unable to move for about 2 or 3 seconds.
my problem is when i get the 40k and rank penalty when i’m disconnected due to a Connection Error. its so frustrating to work my way up to a decent rank and have to start over just cos my ISP screws up or my router drops a packet. I totally get penalising people who deliberately quit out of the game but punishing me just cos my connection gets patchy sometimes feel pretty unfair.
Sounds great! I was just wishing for a plunder only-playlist. Loving the support for this game, keep at it! And this health thingy will be interesting!
Sweet! About time the best game mode of all time had its own playlist! We would still like to see larger maps, teams, and clan support, Naughty Dog.
I didn’t even think about clans in uncharted before. That’d be great. I’m not playing to much with my friends, but I have regular group so if we could have a clan.... it would be very cool. Without any annoying invitations.
And you said also larger maps and temas. If it is possible, it’d pull me away even from CoD MW2 ( and yes, I could pay for this add-on :D )
If they had clans I think it should operate a little like KZ2, in that clans play clans. Having only 5 players on a team is a little rubbish if you come up against 5 players of level 50+ and your team is a bunch of noobs.
Thanks ND! Is the plunder-only playlist permanent? I hope so!! Also, any word on more maps or DLC before the year is out??
Yes, Plunder Only is permanent
i like the way you think....
Hi ND,
That’s great news on plunder I play that most so it’s a welcome addition.
Not sure about Half health glad it’s temp. that said it should encourage us to use stealth more during the test.
You guys are doing a good job of keeping multiplayer fresh.
Any plans for character packs ie Villain pack (Roman, Navarro (for the eu)Eddie Raja & spaniard) and a Heroes pack (Baseball Drake (for the USA)sir Francis Drake)?
I think the Plunder - only change will be decent. Like many others, I am not sure the lowered health change will be liked a lot. I really think you guys should create a few more maps, maybe one that is sort of like the Urban Warfare level in the game, in the city, or somewhere that people will recognize(I dont know if you could do that because of copyright and stuff). But anyway, keep up the really good work!!!
I agree you should come out with a new map pack or new characters and not worry about new playlists or the health as much
Still keep up the good work.
i agree the plunder only playlist is great, but the lowed health thing was a bit annoying. ND what if the lowed health was a playlist itself.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
ND,
I am happy you are updating stuff. I like the plunder only play list.
PLEASE DON’T REDUCE THE HEALTH. Thats lame.
Imagine using the invalid (half health) booster. Half of 65% health is only 32% health. Are you kidding me?
I think the health was spot on. Why would you go an ruin a perfectly good MP game..... Damnit
This reduced health crap better fail, or I will no longer be playing UC2 MP
Agree 100%! I do not like the lowered health one bit. It is almost game breaking bad.
Reducing health was a great idea. Now blind fire works like it should.
jeez, its not like the people not using the invalid booster are still going to have 100% health. it will still be just as hard for someone using invalid to go around killing as it was before and vice versa, and plus no one is forcing you to use invalid
One of the reasons why I love playing Uncharted 2 online is because if someone gets the drop on you, you can still turn around and kill them if you’re better than they are. If you have 65% health, you can’t do that and the multiplayer becomes extremely frustrating (i.e. Modern Warfare 2). I will try it out this weekend, but I think it would be better as a separate playlist.
Could not have said it better. The current health system is looked down upon only by people who are trash at the game and want it to be like MW2 or Socom. Guess what Naughty Dog! We play U2 because it’s original and NOT like other games. Please stop trying to fit in with the popular kids er games.
yeah man this guy is right
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