Player spawn point updates being rolled out
We’ve started rolling updates to player spawn points on our multiplayer maps to alleviate circumstances where players were spawning too near or in critically advantageous/disadvantageous positions to their opponents.
By arne | Twitter @arnemeyer | Thursday March 18 2010
Over the last few weeks we’ve heard about, and witnessed, an increase of players spawning too close to their opponents or in positions on the map which would place them or their opponents at a significant advantage and result in unfair kills. Of course the flip-side is that you would feel like many deaths were ill-gotten and too easy. We’ve been testing changes to the way players spawn after being killed in multiplayer to alleviate these occurrences.
Throughout this week we’ve been rolling out updates—three maps so far—and we’re testing changes to spawns on other maps daily. We will roll out additional updates to maps on an ongoing basis as soon as they’re ready.
What maps have been updated?
We’re not telling yet. We’re not trying to keep you in the dark—we want to get your thoughts on the spawns as they occur naturally as you play, rather than have all of you focus on some particular maps only. We’re also likely to update some things on the fly for the time being.
Let us know in the comments below how you’re finding spawn positions and timing in your matches right now, and if you are running across any trouble spots with spawns.
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Posted by: SpaceNinja9 on 03-18-2010
Glad to see something’s being done. Spawns are a mess
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: diuqil on 03-18-2010
I am extremely happy to hear this Naughty Dog! This game is finally reaching the “perfect” status.
Any news or comments on the following?
Log in to reply to this comment+ Making headshots more effective
+ Nerfing Situational Awareness a bit more
+ Fixing the triple boosters glitch (though I’m pretty sure it’s fixed, but some people report to still be able to do it)
+ Bring back the old fire rate for the sniper rifle (but keeping the hitboxes as is).
Posted by: SecondDayCrush on 03-18-2010
Also, getting more off-topic here, is there a plan in the works for fixing glitches on The Fort any time soon? I’m aware that there has already been a fix to a certain one on that map, but there are plenty more.
Not a match seems to go by where there isn’t at least one person Glitching there. It really takes away the fun of the game when we have people cheating to get their kills.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: arne on 03-18-2010
Definitely continuing working on patching up ways maps can be exploited. This is a bit of a slower process these days though.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Jekahog on 03-18-2010
one more thing the new maps are the ones to really consider for spawning, The Facility is the worst of them all..
Log in to reply to this commenthurry!!!!
Posted by: arne on 03-18-2010
I know we did (or at least attempted) to fix the known triple boosters glitch. As for the rest, there are no plans currently for adjusting any of those.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Jekahog on 03-18-2010
i’m not trying to be rude or anything but i don’t think anyone complained about the grenades, so why did you guys decided to change the radius and the damage. Before update 1.06 there was nothing wrong with it it;s just that they would be a little off balance sometimes that’s all… But now all i need to do is roll just halfway through and i’ll be safe from it, i don’t think it is good at all now because if someone is following with a shotgun and i leave a grenade behind all it’s gonna do is make him/her go on his/her knee even if their are literally on top on the grenade sometimes..
Log in to reply to this commentThis is something that really needs to be considered, i mean it’s a grenade i don’t need to be right on it for it to kill me..
think about it!!!
xD
Posted by: nillacoke on 03-18-2010
please make headshots more effective.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Xx-UNCHARTED2-xX on 03-19-2010
perfect? are you * serious? 1.04 + this = perfect. 1.06 is shit!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: DarkDuneMRK on 03-19-2010
What does “Nerfing” SITUATIONAL AWARENESS mean?!?!
It is fine as-is IMHO. Never been “really” easy to use, and you lose other Booster 1 options when using it. So SA is just fine, really!
BTW: If you are lower level, you will have to accept that SA is an advantage until you get far enough along to have it yourself. For some now, EVASION is proving useful believe it or not!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: majora96 on 03-18-2010
so true id doesn’t really happen to me but i notice that in the facility is happens the most and they always respawn right in front of me and its unfair for them.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: LEROYJ on 03-18-2010
i love to report poeple that pretend that they are good but are glitching.
glitcher found at elimination on the maps lost city and the plaza.
PSN name: FUNKID
http://www.naughtdog.com/stats/FUNKID
he has a big mouth for a little kid that only can get kills if he glitches, without it he doesnt make a single kill he was the only one that was glitching of his team.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: LEROYJ on 03-18-2010
wrong link. sorry.
correct one: http://www.naughtydog.com/stats/FUNKID
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: All2000 on 03-18-2010
I see …
…If he doesn’t make a single kill without glitching then let hem glitch…
Where is the fun if you can’t get a kill?
He who is without sin cast the first stone
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Kratos89CWL on 03-18-2010
I get spawned killed more then ever, please naughty dog quit messing with it, everytime i spawn i’m getting killed, I’ve even spawned, & a tank instantly killed me, i loved the first set up, i almost never got spawn killed, it feels like call of duty, I’m getting disapointed, because I hate call of duty, & if i want to get spawn killed i’ll play that.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: MagixAdept on 03-18-2010
Finally starting to clean up the spawn mess. It’s a nice start to the many problems occuring in the game now
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: rbramblet on 03-18-2010
Would have preferred an announcement on a 1.07 update, fixing what is more frustrating than just spawn points.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: nillacoke on 03-18-2010
wat would be more frustating than spawn point and dont say grenades, i like the grenade cause i dont die every time i turn a * corner or by some random sh*tty grenade by some lvl 20.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: SecondDayCrush on 03-18-2010
It’s great to finally be having a fix to spawn points..
Just now I was playing a match in the Village, and I got spawned literally right next to to the person I just killed.
Glad to see ND is listening to the fans and are creating a fix for this problem!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Blueforce7 on 03-18-2010
This is great news. I haven’t playe don The Fort lately, but last time I did the spawning wa sterrible. I respawned on the side of the map my enemies were camping. And The Flooded Ruins...this othe rguy & I killed each other & respawn litterally, right next to each other.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: nillacoke on 03-18-2010
your typing is terrible lol, thank for fixing the spawns(finally something everyone wanted).
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Blueforce7 on 03-18-2010
I know right? Those three mistakes makes my whole life time of typing terrible. It’s also very very relevant to comment on typing on this artical. Nice one dude.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: nillacoke on 03-19-2010
it was a joke.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Vrals597 on 03-18-2010
I remember two times on The Sanctuary map I actually spawned in the same exact spot as my opponent(s) did at the same exact time which really annoyed me because I would either die immediately, get a kill immediately, or would get very close to dieing but a teammate would save me at the last second
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Fluff- on 03-18-2010
The spawning is probably the most frustrating thing while playing right now anyways.
I also respawned with the enemy at the exact same place and exact same time with an RPG deathmatch, which was weird. But yeah, whenever I respawn, I always have to make sure the enemy isn’t 5 feet away from me, which is annoying. Shouldn’t have to worry about that kind of thing, so it’s great you guys are fixing it.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: ScarecrowsFate on 03-18-2010
Haven’t seen a lick of improvement on any map yet.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: arne on 03-18-2010
This may be redundant, but make sure you’ve logged out and back in to multiplayer within the last day or so as well. It may take a few days for everyone to achieve parity on that.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: nillacoke on 03-18-2010
can u guys please make headshots more effective.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: nillacoke on 03-18-2010
spawns getting fixed is great though, keep up the good work 8).
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Nit2Winit4ever on 03-18-2010
Why make headshots more effective? They’re fine the way they are. Besides, if you want headshot kills, use the sniper or d-eagle.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: widmaniac on 03-18-2010
The places that I have noticed spawning issues are the following:
1) The village- I have had frequent spawns in the center of the map next to a column with people eagerly waiting with the sniper rifle, and on several occasions it spawned me either right in front of or directly under the tank (which is a pretty cheap death if you are dead before you have control)
2) The Fort- Often spawns players at either end while someone is camping there
3) The Ice Cave- people spawn on the snow/cliff end right in front of others a lot
Overall though these are minor complaints. It does a great job for the most part of spawning people in appropriate places. Thanks ND for continuing to constantly strive for the best multiplayer experience out there.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: musicaholic800 on 03-18-2010
THX. But: Your ToDo list is still not done 1) Cash Limit is rediculous. 2) today on village i spawned n front of tank And spawned TWICE on Plaza Right Next to an opponent. 3) WHY have a website that says “the URL has too many segments.” when i try to comment??? You would think your website is compatible with the PS… 4) its odd how you can get a pulldown when your in the air or just let go of a ledge. 5) This NEEDS attention: skeletons and new Chars make NO noise. 6) 3 booster glitch fix 7) glass jaw & invalid one hit punch (Why have 2 boosters do the same thing?) 8) Evasion should be at lvl 49. 9) Extra Health first 3 secs of spawning 10)please, no cash limit
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: GalenBeater on 03-18-2010
I think you guys are doing a very good job on fixing ,patching and doing all you can to make the best game ever even better lol love you Naughty Dog!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Qalb on 03-18-2010
Out of topic but I feel the meelee attacks are way too strong. One punch does as much damage as a grenade from the m32, it doesn’t make sence. It’s like 95% of your health. I just wanted to bring this up cause no one have said it and it’s maybe nice.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: DingoDynamite on 03-19-2010
I completely agree with this - Melee attacks are overpowered. In my view the Melee should do next to no damage, but leave the victim in a ‘down’ state for a moment. The number of times i’ve been melee killed with a single punch whilst shooting my opponent in the head with a AK is unbelievable (but i think that’s probably a lag issue).
The only ‘melee’ type attack that should kill is a stealth attack.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: StoopKid410 on 03-18-2010
i havnt played in a while and i was wondering if they changed it back to the original gameplay yet? or do they still hav all them shit updates applied? it would be cool if someone could tell me
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Titus_Apollo on 03-18-2010
This game is getting so annoying online its not even funny. Go figure.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: xGet_In_There on 03-18-2010
Yea I am happy about it. I stopped playing because of this to play single player. Thank you Naughty Dog for at least looking into it. Class act. Hell of a lot better than Infinity Ward.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: br_steph on 03-18-2010
It’s a joke ?! Very bad update ! Spawns are a mess.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Musoka_Eimin on 03-18-2010
Awesome, great to hear. Spawns have gotten truly messy… Spawning in front of or in the middle of tanks rolling around. Spawning right next to enemies who are also spawning. Spawning sometimes right next to the chest/treasure and other times at the complete opposite end of the map. Spawning into the middle of a firefight… I wan’t a system to report glitchers and request temporary bans on them or something, or perhaps an option to send off a cinema where someone is glitching so you guys can look at and fix the problem. I hope your working on killing the hover glitch issue…
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Jekahog on 03-18-2010
sometime i would spawn right on a grenade thrown by my teammate or my opponent or even in the middle of bullets and junk… hurry up and do something please!!!
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Posted by: litterature on 03-18-2010
I would like to thank Naughty Dog for testing because actually the game, the atmosphere,the grenades explosion, the spawns are negatives you are mad, you’re crazy would you like to make the game out of the order :(
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Jekahog on 03-18-2010
why was there suppose to be a ca$h limit in the first place anyway, i mean would it be a problem if there wasn’t any limit at all.. so what if we get about 10 Get Off My Lawn in a Plunder game which would = 200k or more
Log in to reply to this commentwould it mess up the system or something..
I NEED EXPLANATION PLEASE!
thank you..
Posted by: Reyahwind on 03-18-2010
Really glad for this, I’d expect that the tests would be on The Fort, The flooded Ruins and The Sanctuary. I’d say they were the worst ones. Thanks ND
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Jekahog on 03-18-2010
don’t forget The Facility
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: All2000 on 03-18-2010
I’m on a kind of “strike"… since 2010-02-16 10:23:32
And I’m not enthusiastic to break it up because ND is just fixing mistakes on spawning…
I was hopping a 40K penalty removal and an introduction of a drop in drop out system!
Why should players pull cables out if they have a button to quit the game?!
And what about player’s rights of quitting a game whatever time they want?
I know I’m a dreamer!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: arne on 03-18-2010
Drop in, drop out is something that we can’t put into the game unfortunately, for technical reasons.
The penalty assessment has now been tiered based on your rank (so people with theoretically more cash will be penalized harsher). Either way, the penalty doesn’t apply until you quit consecutively and as long as you keep playing for a while, it’ll reset itself. That being said, we’ve seen quite a reduction in players quitting the game since the introduction of the penalty system.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: killman234567891 on 03-19-2010
guys are you thinking of reducing the cash limit 50k is too low and if you cant can you at least tell me why you cant put the limit up i need to know because i dont see a point in the limit thanks if you reply if you don’t (you probably wont) then forget it
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: InvaderSLACKZ on 03-18-2010
This is great news!! This has been a huge thorn in my side when respawning in the same place I died only to be gunned down by the same player again :(
Log in to reply to this commentI agree that the worst maps for this are The Facility, The Fort, and The Flooded Ruins. Also, the reduced grenade damage/radius is horrible guys!! Not nearly as effective as a grenade should be.
As always keep up the great work ND, and thanks for listening!! I’ll look for ya on the battlefield Arne
Posted by: JAXEVANS07 on 03-18-2010
Arne thanks for replying back to me, that was most generous of you..but it wasn’t the reply I didn’t want to hear :( You said and I quote;
arne posted March 17, 2010 4:11 pm
Actually, we think the FAL is in a really good spot right now as far as weapon balance.
Really...REALLY? :( Um....not trying to be a prick since this is ND’s first ONLINE game but honestly this FAL upgrade changes the core game play a lot...not a major overhaul but a lot. Who honestly complained about the FAL (unless they were the people getting mowed down by it
) That was one of the most used weapons. Now no one really touches it. If I use that gun, I’ll either die,(its pointless playing with invalid as well) or more likely some one STEALS my kill. :( I hope this decision of yours won’t last long...just please give us back the normal FAL.. if y’all want to nerf it, how about lowering the ammo capacity? 
Anyway sorry I’ve typed so much, Uncharted 2 is (...maybe was :() my favorite online multiplayer game. 
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Nit2Winit4ever on 03-18-2010
Only reason they nerfed it cuz people were complaining, and they were only complaining cuz they WERE getting mowed down time and time again by campers and whatnot from the lowered health/weapon damage increase.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: DingoDynamite on 03-19-2010
Again - I completely agree with this. Since the changes the FAL is now next to useless.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: ownageLSU on 03-19-2010
of course the Fal is in a “really good spot right now,” I mean, why should this accurate 3 burst gun be sooo goood...obviously the AK should be the best gun and requires the most skill...i mean, why shouldn’t the best gun be your default weapon and have the largest bullet spread of any other gun in the game...only those with the greatest of skill can utilize it to its fullest capabilities with such accurate and precise bullets...it makes PERFECT sense for the AK to be better than the FAL…
(and for those who haven’t picked up on it yet...this entire paragraph is sarcasm...now that I know they will never return the FAL...i don’t have to worry about actually coming back to this game and playing it again...i can leave it alone...and btw ND just thought i’d let you know...essentially every team in gamebattles has completely stopped playing this game and doing matches because of these so-called updates you have installed...every good player hates everything you have done and refuses to play anymore...nice job...catering to noobs...ya’ll seem to be like most other companies in where you are only in it for the money and not the actual quality of the product...as long as more people buy the game ya’ll are happy)
anyways...i was thinking about coming back after i platinumed god of war 3...but that’s looking doubtful now...nearly all of my friend’s list has quit as well...us and the GB ladder will be back when 1.04 is back...if it isn’t too late
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Booyahinyourface on 03-18-2010
This multiplayer is still trash until they bring back the old health and, or make it optional. Also bring back the old grenade radius and damage, but give them a set fuse time and take away the ability to blindfire them (just tapping L2). And make the riot shield deflect explosives (because right now they’re completely useless), make it so the hammer and RPG don’t spawn in Elimination, let us carry more ammo for the sniper, bring back the old fire rate for sniper and FAL, give us some more interesting game modes (sinse almost all of them involve standing at posts and capturing them), and make co-op arena have 20 rounds instead of 10. Do this, and the game will be flawless.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: arne on 03-18-2010
That’s a tall order in a lot of ways there. And many of them do affect game balance severely. Not everything can be just changed for the better by going ‘X’ or ‘Y’ thing. There’s a lot of variables that get affected if you change one gameplay attribute.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: MajorxAdamska on 03-18-2010
I personally don’t usually have a problem with the spawns. It’s both killed me and got me kills so it balances itself out. I’m still hoping they change back the fire rate back on the sniper rifle and FAL. Other than that it’s still great. If possible ND I would love a Heist Eddy for the Hero team and a Pinkerton estate map. I guess I should be posting that on the Eye of Indra update but oh well.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: ADR143 on 03-18-2010
good to see spawns are being work on.
We still have issues on balancing the gameplay.
make it like 1.04
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: M-Brother on 03-18-2010
What changed the spawn system in the first place? It was fine back in 1.04. Are there sometimes unintended consequences when patches are released?
Thank you for fixing spawns! And the blog picture is hilarious, that shows you guys are good sports.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Eternal21 on 03-18-2010
I just finished playing for 2 hours. PLAZA and ICE CAVE are definitely still bad - you end up spawning right on top of your enemies - you kill them, and they then spawn on top of you - it’s an endless cycle…
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Xx_Skadoosh_xX on 03-18-2010
Honestly, what was wrong with the way the spawns were anyways? I was getting into it, but now I no longer play Uncharted 2 online period because in the village I get ran over by the tanks more than anything, and I think it’s just plain stupid when I get spawned right beside someone on the opposing team!!! Don’t get me wrong I use to love playing this game, but now I refuse to play it. I’m thinking about trading it in for COD I was so happy when uncharted first came out and everything was peachy. I also have to add that the new grenade radius is just crazy. All I have to do is barely move to one side and I don’t get hit at all. This game doesn’t challenge me anymore. Making it alittle too easy is like pacifying the people who just aren’t that good on online.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: shosho1019 on 03-18-2010
i really dont get you guys fix it back to 1.04 problem fixed. all players hate the mp now
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Snake-Eater300 on 03-19-2010
Arne, you basically said that the penalty system works well, but just a few days ago I lost 160k and it was never my fault that I was out of the game (connection errors, freezes and stuff).
I think that’s what people complain about. You should only get a penalty if you actually leave the game yourself, not when the game throws you out or so…
Fixing the spawns is great, but as you probably know, I’m also on the side of those who say 1.04 would fix it all. Until then it was the game we bought and the best MP I have ever played.
Now it’s not nearly as much fun as before. Your options are limited since 1.05 if you don’t want to die often. Before 1.05, you had the freedom to play the game as you wanted and there was a way to be successful with every strategy. You simply die too quickly now for some strategies/ways of playing.
Also, I think some of the powerful weapons in this game are underpowered at the moment. The rocket launcher for example: Sometimes you fire a rocket at someone’s feet and it doesn’t hurt him one bit (I watched the replay to make sure). Why is that? It’s a rocket launcher, it’s slow and only has two shots. It should kill everything in a radius of about 2 meters no matter what. I hardly ever use this weapon, but it’s annoying when something like this happens. This is not the only weapon that seems unbalanced at the moment, however, I’m worried that you won’t reply to this comment if I post too much
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: webberfan on 03-19-2010
I think they need to have a penalty system. With only 5v5 a single person not playing, afk or deciding to drop out can totally affect the outcome of the match, particularly in a close match. One person can cause the other 4 people to lose. How is that “fair” to the remaining players.
That said I do think the current system seems unfair to those with bad internet connections. A timed penalty system would be much fairer. Example....you can’t join a multiplayer match for 20 minutes if you disconnect. This would discourage people from dropping out and jumping into the next available game more than losing some money would. It would also be fairer to those that drop out through no fault of their own.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: ExtremeGamer13 on 03-19-2010
I’m not good with introductions, so I’m just gonna tell you my ideas. First of all, let me just say that I’m fine with the changes to the FAL, but not so much as to the Dragon Sniper. I think it would be better if it was a one-hit-kill deal, but had less ammo. It doesn’t deserve to be called a sniper if it doesn’t kill you in one shot. Secondly, I was in a battle one time in the Sanctuary, and i saw my partner head up that ladder in the starting spawn point, and he did that hovering glitch and hovered all the way to that smaller tower in the background, and then he started shooting everyone! Can you guys make it so that they die when they go over here? Thanks.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: dreamfox001 on 03-19-2010
I to play a lot less, aldough I have enough time. It has just become so frustrating and “unreal"to play that I just don’t play anymore.
From my ±50 friends, I do also see rarely one still playing UC2. Seems they have all moved along since the 1.06 updates..., which is quite normal...How could you like the game when it has nothing to do with skill, kind of weapon you are holding, but only who has lag and who doesn’t.
Why ohh why ND did you change so much bad things?
Main bad things:
AK overpowered (compared to other weapons now)
FAL useless
Spawns: crasy (crushed the other day by the the tank, did not even now I respawned already???, many time in front of enemy) _> I understand this is beeing fixed…
Grenade: useless (come on, a grenade is a grenade, it should kill like it was before)
sniper: was ok with “one shot” kill (its hard enough to follow sniped in/aimed enemies with this gun, so when you’re spot on it should kill)
Feels like the shotgun has changed as well, not sure if for the better…
ND change it back to 1.04 and:
Sniper: 1 shot = on kill, enough ammo
Grenade: quicker detonation, maybe less grenades (total and respawns to compensate). range as before 1.05 -> maybe this would also make the totaly useless (drop a grenade) booster somewhat more usefull
FALL as before 1.05
Pistols in all maps instead of only some of the maps
quicker 9mm shooting action (a little slow)
hammer: one straight shot= one kill
Desert 5: make it stronger
Quicker “general” aiming! -> now if someone runs from left to right at 30m, its impossible to follow when aimed. This is not normal! People should not be able to outrun aimed in…
and finally drop total 10% health
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Snake-Eater300 on 03-19-2010
That’s how you want it to be?
The lower the health, the more annoying campers we will get. We need more health or a lower weapon damage to make this game better.
The grenades need a timer. Even with the smaller radius, you still have no chance to escape a grenade that explodes right away. A bigger radius and a timer would be best in my opinion.
I’m glad the cheap pistol is not in every map and the desert is a quick two-shot-kill which is okay. The Hammer would be too strong as a one-shot-kill.
The FAL and the Sniper are a bit too slow now imo. Both should be faster. The FAL should kill in three bursts and the sniper in two, just like before. I think it was more balanced that way.
After more than half a year, I do not want to get used to quicker aiming, although it is a bit slow indeed.
No offense. That’s just what I think about your suggestion. But I totally agree with “1.04 back”. What you said just wasn’t really 1.04-like…
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Posted by: DingoDynamite on 03-19-2010
Yes, please fix the grenades - It’s now next to impossible to fluch out campers!
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Posted by: Lancast77 on 03-19-2010
Nice to see that you’re fixing the annoying spawn.
Log in to reply to this commentAnyway, I haven’t played this game since the beginning but I was wondering, was the $50.000 cap always there? It’s rather stupid to have a cap like this, if you use the “Negative Grey Boosters”, you can get 50k whiting 10 kills which can take you like 5 minutes of the game. Right now I am level 57, I have $30milion, but I’m not even half way there to level 60 as it requires $62milion. If the money cap didn’t exist in the past, you should take it off, if it did, I don’t expect you to take it off as the players that did go all the way with the cap to level 60 may get frustrated.
Posted by: bishop0904 on 03-19-2010
What is “Negative Grey Boosters ?
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: jamaican27 on 03-19-2010
The only other thing in uncharted that needs to be fixed is the lag in almost all games I play on uncharted 2.except for custom and co op games. Thanks naughty dog and please make JAK 4 or whatever you call it for ps3 because that is one of my favorite games that I have ever play and made me decide to be a video game designer.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Xx-UNCHARTED2-xX on 03-19-2010
OMG this is great news but it would be better if YOU REVERT IT TO 1.04 AND FIX THE LAGS YOU BROUGHT ALONG WITH YOUR SHITTY UPDATE 1.06!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: AvALOne-10 on 03-19-2010
why are you mad? it’s just a game, play for fun and accept the changes it’s a multiplayer and naughty dog is reading what people express. and they always do changes, so stop crying everone will be happy after 1.07 i hope
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Snake-Eater300 on 03-19-2010
It’s not the game we bought anymore and personally, I do not have half as much fun since update 1.05 than I had before. I loved the old game, that’s why I want it back and that’s why I’m angry that ND has taken it from us. No one told us things would change that much when we bought the game
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: AvALOne-10 on 03-19-2010
‘’I’m angry that ND has taken it from us.’’
naughty dog made the game, they taken it from you? lol
Log in to reply to this commentdo you want to play the SAME multiplayer everyday, everyweek, every month?
Posted by: Snake-Eater300 on 03-19-2010
They made the game and I paid for it, to have exactly this game, not something else.
And yes, I want to play the very same game that I bought. That’s how it always is. Online-games normally don’t change that much you know. You shouldn’t make such huge changes after five months.
Just a few days ago I played RE5 mercenaries again and guess what, it’s still the very same game that it ever was and the same people, thousands and more, are still playing it.
ND created this game, yes, but with our money basically. They should give us what we want.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: AvALOne-10 on 03-19-2010
HEY NAUGHTY DOGS!!! awesome job guys, i think i’m the only one who loves the update 1.06
except the spawns on the fort, flooded ruins and facility.
DONT FIX THE NADES radius it’s perfect now and people got do deal with it.
Why do a lot of people are going crazy because of the radius of 1 meter? i think its because they cant get a kill after dropping a grenade like a pussy before dying. people got more grenades kill than ak or fal.
I like the FAL too because now people will use it for long range kill and not for 2 bullet kill when the enemy is at 4 meter of them -_- its a long range gun in this game and i like it.
Keep up the good work!! Good job naughtydog!!
Arne please dont fix the grenade radius.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: ivgenygigi on 03-19-2010
Helo Arne !
are planing to give us new DLC !!
:):)
i remember a few weeks ago, i dont remember where ,but there were talking about new dlc on march 25 ... i wanted to ask is this was real ? or fake ? and when THE DOGS
we are something like 25 gamers thats HUNGRY for new maps, games ... WE ARE WANT MORE U2 MULTIPLAYER STUF !!
thanks for attention , waiting for an answer ....
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: chioro_san on 03-19-2010
Village continues REALLY BAD with spawning, but so far for me The Facility HAVE THE WORST SPAWN EVER. Again: EVER AND EVER.
Right when you dogs were doing the live update this week I was playing and the matchmaking did a 3x3, 4 players got down by AFK, so I played 1x1…
Now, 1x1 you should spawn ANYWHERE on the map but every time I killed the other guy, I just stand still and BANG, he spawned AT THE VERY SAME PLACE.
My god, the game had the WHOLE MAP to respawn him but keep spawning at my side… I have the Cinema of that, worst bulshit EVER. Result? I spawn-killed him 25 times, ONLY WITH 2 PLAYERS ON THE MAP AND WITHOUT MOVING!
Now, as for the Live Game Sync thing, I have an suggestion: I was playing AT THE VERY SAME TIME you guys were updating and I did not know that, so the game started to look really strange, lots of bad games, lag and all until there was absolutelly NO ONE PLAYING.
So, I played A LOT of bad conection matchs until I realized “maybe I should quit and log again” and that was it, problem solved.
My suggestion is: as soon as there is a live sync update, FORCE THE PLAYERS TO QUIT AND UPDATE, otherwise, as happened to me, we can get REALLY ANGRY with the game without knowing that we need to update and what is the problem with the conection. Even if we are playing and logged on the matchmaking, force us to quit and update.
Thats all, peace.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: MikeOxbigg on 03-19-2010
This is the first time I have ever bothered leaving a message like this, such is how much I enjoy the game, even though it is now laden with some incredibly irritating quirks that belong in a beta product.
I actually thought 1.05 was an excellent update, the bullet sponge effect had gone and the balance was starting to look right, with logical progression and evolution of the gameplay mechanics I thought things where going to get even better with sucessive updates.
How wrong I was! 1.06 is quite literally a joke, I have adapted best I can, I used to be a huge FAL lover (check my stats if you wish) not a camper, I ran round the map. I don’t give a monkeys about my KDR, but now I don’t touch the FAL and stick to killing people with the 92FS as my main weapon; this is an annoyance more than anything and one I can deal with.
What I can’t deal with are some of the things mentioned above by others already, which surely should be addressed, first let’s skip past the fact that this spawn fix has taken so long to rectify.
Grenades - 1.5 metres ought to be at least trialed as a viable option surely? 1 metre blast radius is frustratingly weak.
Bullet lag - I honestly didn’t notice this much until Tuesday/Wednesday gone, ever since then it’s got REALLY bad, this may be system or connection specific my end, but everything else is operating normally and has been doing so for months. Regardless, it needs fixing as it’s ruining the game.
Pull downs - I have had a couple of ‘questionable’ shall we say pull downs before, but my god I am getting some that are laughable now, as in I have jumped far to the left or right of someone off the edge, then my character somehow centres in midair, goes back to the ledge infront of the opponent then gets pulled down, all in a split second!
Cheaters - it would be nice to have somewhere we can mail videos/pictures of people cheating and them be dealt with accordingly. Such as this doughnut called Daxuke, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh5FOHLLOKY I have several more vids, but what’s the point in uploading if they can cheat and get away with it.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Mr_F10ch3 on 03-19-2010
roll out back to 1.04
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: chioro_san on 03-19-2010
Forgot something: the spawn time should be consistent, ALWAYS 10 SECONDS, no matter what happen. On the new maps specially on Plunder, sometimes you work with your team to kill the entire enemy team, so you can take the Plunder to safety, but within 3 seconds and sometimes WITHIN 0 SECONDS, the entire team respawn!
I know the matchs gotta be a cool battle and all, but if you KILL EVERYONE YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME KINDA ADVANTAGE, and with those crazy timers that dosn’t happen at all.
On The Fort, on Plunder, sometimes the enemy team keep spawning at you side and your team keep respawning AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP? How fair is that? You have to run like crazy while the other just stop, pop, die, rise and repeat all at the very same place.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: sup_foo on 03-19-2010
Why were the spawns changed in the first place? Back in the 1.04 days the spawns were rarely an issue, except maybe the Fort. Also, why are the re-spawn times different on the new maps? I bought the DLC, but do not even use it because of the spawns on those maps. I actually wish I could get my money back.
It is really funny how you guys have managed to take a great game and throw it in the trash. The GOTY awards really went to your heads. I still play, but less and less each day. Same for my friends. You should bring back 1.04 or make it a playlist.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: drbrugg on 03-19-2010
Arne. A little off topic, but I think you might like to know this. I think I found a typo in the game.
Log in to reply to this commentIn Multiplayer, in the trophies, the Sneaky trophy. The description below reads “Get 50 Stealth Kills in Deathmatch OF Elimination games”. That is supposed to be OR, right? If it is supposed to be “of”, I don’t get it. Just FYI.
Posted by: Ron_Thunder on 03-19-2010
Glad to hear the spawns are being worked on. It is my biggest problem with 1.06.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: shosho1019 on 03-19-2010
if u guys bother to read other posts u can see in the last post about rikka and pinkerton comments that arne stated we dont give a shit about you ppl and we gonna do what we want. or in ther works we will keep an eye on it. like 3000 ppl is not enough that say this game sux now. best bet sell the game. they dont give a shit. its that simple
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: J3rell_rast on 03-19-2010
I was playing earlier this morning and THE TEMPLE still has some spawn issues around the bottom area behind the statues on both sides. I saw someone near the hammer, stopped, aimed, and get obliterated by 3 users who just spawned behind the statue right next to me. ICE CAVE is also messed up around the bottom area.
Glitchers: Allow us to report them using the cinema feature. These glitchers have migrated from Deathmatch to Elimination games.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Leri_Swe on 03-19-2010
You guys in ND better FIX the BCES code an other download for the other BCES CODE for those who have paid it should be free What an unprofessional company!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: RecessBeginsNOW on 03-19-2010
Arne the dlc on april 15 isn’t our last right?
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: InvaderSLACKZ on 03-19-2010
Played in The Facility last night, and the spawning was better (Had to go find the opposing team again!) but it did get a little crowded again towards the end of the match. Played in The Lost City and I swear I kept running right into 3/5 of the opposing team over and over. Maybe that was just my luck, also played in Ice Cave and spawning was fine unless you went in the lower level. Then it got super crazy, two of us spawned right in front of the entire opposing team, and that was the end of that.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Sponky on 03-19-2010
Why not just use the spawns in 1.04? Very rarely have I ever spawned behind someone or someone behind my back in 1.04.
I would say I have a bad spawn every game I play in 1.06. People just randomly spawn behind me all the time while I’m having a firefight with someone, I spawn near people and don’t have time to breath after I spawn, groups of the opposite team will spawn in front of me, and sometimes I spawn behind people.
Now with the new maps, you guys are gonna have to figure something out. I don’t play the new maps because of the spawns and people camping on one side of the map in The Flooded Ruins. You could also set damage back to 1.04(I hope I hope) and adjust the damage of the sniper rifle to what it is now. I really get the feeling Naughty Dog wanted people to use this weapon a lot more than anything.It was pretty rare to see people go after the Sniper Rifle in 1.04. Grenade radius should be increased slightly too.
These two updates have killed my K/D ratio. I went from 1.99 to 1.93. Hopefully these spawns help out because I would very much like to play Uncharted 2 again. In the mean time, I’ve playing Resistance 2 again. Forgot how good R2 was.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: Devante_Deon on 03-19-2010
ARNE I NOTICED THAT IN THE PICTURE ABOVE NAUGHTYDOG DRAKE IS UP THERE. WHEN WILL WE GET THAT SKIN. IT SEEMS AS IF YOU GUYS ARE TEASING US WITH THAT SKIN. ALSO AS FAR AS 1.06 IS CONCERNED DNT CHANGE IT.I LOVE IT BECAUSE IT TAKES MORE SKILL TO GET A KILL. I LOVE THE GRANADES. ONLY THING I DNT LIKE IS THE RESPAWNS FIX THOSE
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: DarkDuneMRK on 03-19-2010
from diuqil posted March 18, 2010 3:43 pm
Any news or comments on the following?
+ Nerfing Situational Awareness a bit more
What does “Nerfing” SITUATIONAL AWARENESS mean?!?!
It is fine as-is IMHO. Never been “really” easy to use, and you lose other Booster 1 options when using it. So SA is just fine, really!
BTW: If you are lower level, you will have to accept that SA is an advantage until you get far enough along to have it yourself. For some now, EVASION is proving useful believe it or not!
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: aismen67 on 03-19-2010
One thing that you should absolutely fix is the new Elimination method. Now it’s absurd!!!
The scope of the Elimination game was to defeat the whole opposite team: now it isn’t anymore!
It’s absurd that if I remain the only one of my team, to win I must go to search and kill the other 3 left of the opposite team (or at least two) or I loose the game. They should search me to win instead!!!
It was more interesting that the game ties if no one was able to kill the opposite one left. I know that you made it against the variuous glitchers, but in this way the Elimination is too strange.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: trekgeek on 03-19-2010
I am glad to see they are doing things to fix some of this. I want to reiterate what people are saying about The Fort. There are still glitches. I have a saved game showing a glitch and took screen shots of it. Who can I send this to in order for them to see it and fix it?? Anyone know?
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: SenorBobo on 03-19-2010
ND,
Log in to reply to this commentI would just like to say that I love what you have done with 1.4 and other updates. I am glad to see that you are fixing the respawn points. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: demonsgalore on 03-19-2010
its even not that multiplayer game i loved so much as at the release. until the first ridiculous patch came out.
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: demonsgalore on 03-19-2010
and you dont want to agree that you have done bullshit and change it more and more far away from your first great multiplayer experience youve done first. why :(?
Log in to reply to this commentPosted by: demonsgalore on 03-19-2010
i am disappointed so much
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