Player spawn point updates being rolled out

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We’ve started rolling updates to player spawn points on our multiplayer maps to alleviate circumstances where players were spawning too near or in critically advantageous/disadvantageous positions to their opponents.

By arne | Twitter @arnemeyer | Thursday March 18 2010

Over the last few weeks we’ve heard about, and witnessed, an increase of players spawning too close to their opponents or in positions on the map which would place them or their opponents at a significant advantage and result in unfair kills. Of course the flip-side is that you would feel like many deaths were ill-gotten and too easy. We’ve been testing changes to the way players spawn after being killed in multiplayer to alleviate these occurrences.

Throughout this week we’ve been rolling out updates—three maps so far—and we’re testing changes to spawns on other maps daily. We will roll out additional updates to maps on an ongoing basis as soon as they’re ready.

What maps have been updated?

We’re not telling yet. We’re not trying to keep you in the dark—we want to get your thoughts on the spawns as they occur naturally as you play, rather than have all of you focus on some particular maps only. We’re also likely to update some things on the fly for the time being.

Let us know in the comments below how you’re finding spawn positions and timing in your matches right now, and if you are running across any trouble spots with spawns.

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Posted by: rigonanfm on 04-12-2010

people who usually glitch are the good ones because they want to piss other people. The bad here is that they are given a bad reputation like oh this guy has 2.75 kd ratio for example because he cheats. On the side of the cheater he wanted to ruin other peoples game. When they get piss they will quit and recieve a penalty. The glitchers intention is to make people suffer that is why naughty dog needs to remove the glitching 100 percent as much as possible. The penalty should be have a price cut. There is this time that when you are about to start a game the loading screen begins to freeze or stuck. If this person knows less about that it really needs to take a while to load it, then he will quit and recieve a penalty. I always get the connection error all the time. It is unfair for me because i am a devoted player who wants to finish every game, but because of an error i receive a huge minus 40000. I am supposed to be 51 now but because of frequent errors i returned to 49.

Posted by: F-U-C-K-Drake on 04-18-2010

No game is perfect, just do like me. Be better than th opponent and no matter the glitch, There is always a neoglitch or a death move to perform no matter where somebody is. Sometimes it involves a little ingenuity. Like in the plaza from the villians side that glitch. Throw a grenade directly at the crease in the wall and it will bounce off the glitch roll and explode the entire glitch wall

Posted by: darkshadow5456 on 04-02-2010

I am very happy to see this as well thanks Naughty Dog

My main problem with spawning is in the village
-there have been multiple times when my friends and I have been spawned under the tank
-the spawns in the middle of the map are the most troubling almost every time I’ve spawned in the center of the map it has been an almost instant death

Posted by: ownageLSU on 03-22-2010

the reason i haven’t used invalid recently is because i was trying to see how the update functioned normally...i can’t make a reasonable judgement on something if i’m not playing it as it is meant to be played...i used invalid when i got it in 1.05...and if 1.06 made it easier to kill for sucky people doesn’t that mean those kills are going to be taken from somewhere else?...in other words...kills i would typically be getting are going to suckier players...and due to the decrease in health...it is easier for suckier players to camp and kill before i can react completely...since i don’t camp and do run around this latter reason is why my k/d hasn’t been as good...i hate games where camping is a legit strategy which was why i loved 1.04 so much...you camp, you die...so i’ve quit playing because it isn’t fun anymore...do i thinkg ND will return to 1.04...NO...can i ask them to?...YES...will i play as much as i did before...NO...i only get on now if my friends beg me to get on…

also grenades were good before because people who sucked couldn’t evade them...me and most of my friends could easily escape any nade and counter with either gunfire or a nade...you know...back when skill was involved...but too many scrubs complained about nades and everything else and changed the game...now the competitive level of the game has dropped...it is too even a playing field now

Posted by: nillacoke on 03-22-2010

so the suckish people are taking ur kills now instead of u stealing theirs. deal with it, it happens to everyone, we all get assistants at some point. its been fun arguing with u and ur a good player and i really didnt mean to say u suck back there so yea i’m sorry.

Posted by: jboi67 on 03-21-2010

i love this game but truthfully it has become the biggest mess with these nonsence updates..fixing weapons that dont need any fixing and recently this respawn crap and dumb glitchers everywhere. i dont understand why people play if all you do is cheat. im level V and i get matched with people who are level X and they really suck because there only that rank because of glitching.. ahhhh! : (

Posted by: Wii_Amputee on 03-21-2010

Too bad i already sold this game for battlefield. You guys really screwed up the spawn points to frustrating levels. I bought this game when it first came out and one of the reason was because i played themultiplayer first and loved it. Well it is not the same game at all i feel ripped off that you changed it. its like buying a TV but then overtime it the picture gets smaller. not what i payed for. I have put undred of hours into the game and everyon ei know has gotten rifdo f it because the frequent and misguided changes. The spawn points were perfect before the dlc and became worse than Call of duty afterwards. Not acceptable.

And deaths are so fast now that you can barely use the levels to escape ;ike before. screw this game and screw naughty dog. You Can NOT change the fundamental of a gae without alienating a lot of people

Posted by: Harrijet on 03-22-2010

You¨ve had the grenade launcher respawned on facility! Good thanks. You¨ve seen my mail i guess (since im the only one mentioned it^^).

Why make the sniper have faster rapid fire? So you can kill easier? Its perfect now, perfekt! ‘

Slow rapid fire
5 shots/mag
1 shot kill (if hit properly).

About spawns, why let you spawn together with yout teammates in a bunch when killed? Cant you separate so you spawn individually?

Glitches, if feels there are even more glitches! One, at least, is discovered on flooded ruins.

And please, restore the grenades radius, its so pathetic. A grenade is a grenade and is supposed to have a big hit radius, right:S??

Someone said/heard that theres a trick so you can have FOUR boosters per game instead of two! please check this out.
Finally, seriously, are people ACTUALLY puting out “how you glitch this and that map” on youtube? Whats the point of cheating?

ive notice that cheaters are the players who suck and cant get kills in the right way.

Tnx Nd for listening again. I like 1.06 pretty much now. FAL IS a long distance weapon and the player who possess it in a long distance fight against ak47/m4 WINS, fare and square and thats it! And again, sniper is perfect. Why have 15 shots, one shot kill and faster rapid fire? that is --> stupidity!

Tnx again, Hope you restore the grenades radius SINCE it was never an issue and people are complaining about that.

Posted by: H-Annous on 03-22-2010

I’m not sure if it’s before the update or after but it recently happened to me in “The Fort” to be spawned just above a grenade that had been thrown. The result was that I was killed the second I was spawned!

Posted by: CreatedbyPhoenix on 03-22-2010

Dear Gamers,

do not answere to this and do not give naughty dog any benefite to take fast advantage.

“We’re not telling yet. We’re not trying to keep you in the dark—we want to get your thoughts....”

Yeahhh, of cause naughty dog! What else do you need from us? Thausend of comments the last few weeks are not enough? You are listening, we know.

Ups, i forgot. You was AFK. Busy, taking all this heavy, golden awards back home.

I feel that you just wanna convert the gamer opinions into cash.

Since what time, the gamer are working for your business? Are you the professions or we.

Who earn the big money?

1.7 is so worse. Seems you do not have any clue how to fix the problems.

I am tired to listen you.

Posted by: x2495IV on 03-22-2010

I don’t know if anyone else has experienced this, but I was playing the fort recently in a Pistole and Sniper Rifle Deathmatch, and I was picked off REPEATEDLY because I would consistently spawn at the bottom of one of the two staircases, and at the top of each was an enemy sniper. Now, I was able to escape because I got spawned at the same time as one of my allies and he got shot first, giving me time to roll away, but I couldn’t even begin to understand why it wouldn’t respawn me topside so I could punish those lousy campers. Seemed kinda broken to me.

Posted by: Pat_on_your_back on 03-22-2010

Grenade radius should have only been decreased by 0.5m instead of 1.0m ... they are too weak now. Also, I’d prefer the rate of fire be changed back on the FAL ... make it one bullet weaker if it’s still too powerful.

Another problem I’ve found is the reticle on the sniper disappears after each shot and comes back after you’re able to fire again so I’ll often have to guess where the shot will go on my second and third sniper shots and it takes the skill out of it so fix this please.

Posted by: mike-yazuka on 03-22-2010

This has nothing to do with respawnpoints, but I’m not sure where else to write this.
Can’t you add more game modes? I would love an “everyone against everyone” death match mode. If you are playing with say 3 friends, then you can all be aganst each oter.

Posted by: Ron_Thunder on 03-22-2010

The fort spawns are still horrible. The battle is always on the bottom floor. Plus that spawn point at the bottom of the stairs is horrible. I don’t have too many problems on the plaza, sanctuary, and temple. The lost city is probably the best spawning map of any of them. Arne when are the spawn changes going to be implemented?

Posted by: LBPlant on 03-22-2010

Did you really change up the spawns?

I can see a decrease, but the spawns are still pretty bad. The last 3 games I just played have been pretty awful, mostly because I spawned RIGHT where the opposing team was 4 times.

The Sanctuary and Plaza have pretty nice spawns though. But the Fort, Ice Cave, Village, and Temple have annoying spawns. :(

P.S. Are you guys thinking about changing back the granades? The new granades are like pillows.

Posted by: belthazor_nl on 03-22-2010

played today.
sanctuary spawning is, i expect, not fixed. got alot of kills just trought spawning. and with plunder the spawning is still different
the lost city has still spawning points wich are unfair in balance of objective games.
the fort has still spawns which are close to opponent.
the vilage looks better. but i do not know sure.
haven’t played ice cave, facilty and flooded ruinds today.
the temple still has spawns close to opponent, but less of them
train wreck is better at spawns

Posted by: RagnaroaK on 03-22-2010

I what the hell do you supose to do with all the kills i’ve got?

I had a ratio of 1.31 now… I posted this problem like 10 times since this problen start in your facebook page and anyone give me an explanation…

I spent $350 (100 dolars, cause i’m from Argentina) to buy this game and it’s imposible to play online…

Intead to do 5 skins and sell them for $4,99 correct this * problem cause i didn’t spend $350 to being kill over and over for your * respawn error! The game was fine till 1.04… Why to do the stupid 1.06!!!!!

Posted by: Ace-Deucey on 03-22-2010

I’d like to know which makes so that I can make an educated comparison. So far I have not noted much of a difference. in the plaza - match after match I get killed 5-7 times by spawn kills. Other maps are more or less the same.

Posted by: Ace-Deucey on 03-22-2010

I’d like to know which maps so that I can make an educated comparison. So far I have not noted much of a difference. In the plaza - match after match I get killed 5-7 times by spawn kills. Other maps are more or less the same.

Posted by: megablitz8 on 03-22-2010

Dear NaughtyDog,
Please there are more than just respwan spots. Can u change the sensitivity. Because when I pick up items like plunder the treasure I have click on triangle like 3 or 2 times then the enemy kills me can you fix it please. Make an item from the PSN store free please. Make any kind of add on free. The one thing I want in Uncharted 2 for free is the golden guns. I know they expired but make the golden guns free because its over now Or when your level 60 you can equip the gold gun or something. Add a add on that it adds a chapter 27 or something. I dont think you can do that but try. Put the MP$) online and that other pistol. Why isnt that gun online. All the other one are. And for plunder respawn the treasure in the middle not next to one of the bases. If anyone agrees with these problems comment under it and hopefully Naughty Dog will change it.
Sincerely,
megablitz8

Posted by: jai_brar_16 on 03-22-2010

my mom dont allow me to purchase things from ps store but this time she really saw me playing this game so she allowed me to do dat..!!but when i downloaded this map pack and skins it didnt wirked from me..!!i downloaded it from another id and it doesnot even work on tha psn id(dats on the same system)....guyzz plzz help me...oder wise i have to play dose old map and skkins......but im sure dat i wont laeve dis game....:D

Posted by: megablitz8 on 03-23-2010

Ok about the respawn spot if you going to fix it fix it now please I lost 6 games in a row because of the respawn spots. Oh yeah and when I about to die I go behind a hard brick wall and somehow they still kill. So plaese make one of your add ons free and please fix all my problems you can contact me on my youtube channel user is JTMshow or send me a messege on my PS3 please respawn Sincerely megablitz8

Posted by: megablitz8 on 03-23-2010

dear naughty dog you can forget about all that other stuff I said but look at my KD ratio. Its by 254. And on the online leader board its 178. Anyways thats not right I should have 58 more deaths not 178 because I counted all kills and deaths from all my games from cinema and it should be 58 more deaths fix it NOW please If this happened to you reply to my comment and hopefully they will fix it

Posted by: TURDLESPEED on 03-25-2010

I think that the majority of people who have posted comments here have absolutely missed the topic. I think that is awesome that ND is looking for “constructive criticism”. I also think it is retarded that very few comment on the spawning issues, and direct the complaining to things not mentioned on the updates.

From my playing time online, I’ve noticed that Flooded Ruins, The Facility and the Fort have the worst re-spawns and have been the most frusstrating. It goes both ways really. I have been the one to re-spawn right behind the player that just killed me and have felt dirty killing him. I have also been on the other side of the coin and have been killed by the person I just defeated in a matter of seconds. The frustration for me is that the skill required to stay alive and earn streaks has been reduced greatly and has become a 1 for 1 type game play.

I am excited to see any improvements to the spawning issues that have been occuring.

Posted by: deadly-lionfish on 03-27-2010

really glad u have tried to fix the spawning issues.

i hav a few quetions though… like why hasnt the WEs and the Defender been included on the multiplayer maps.

and i think that only players below lvl30 should be allowed to use SA as i am feed up of level 51-60’s using SA.

Posted by: cerealkiller878 on 03-27-2010

Ok, so i just started playing the game again today after a bout 1-2 months (bit of a modern warfare 2 nut) and i gotta say im U2’s online a lot better now… idk if it was just the miss of the game but everything seems so much smoother now. I agree with Ownagelsu though the pistol shooting does it in for me but considering my absence from the game im gonna find myself playing it alot more, oh and another thing, daily player up in the 60 thousands? last time i played in was 12 thousands… great job Naughty Dog

Posted by: JToTheP2 on 04-01-2010

Good, I’m glad this is being worked on. I have seen, and spawned in some ridiculous places, especially in the Flooded Ruins, and Facility. I hope the fix is done soon!

I still hope for Chloe in her Yellow Vest, and a Medal for 5 explosive Kills.

Posted by: DevilGod1 on 04-02-2010

why you change many thing every month. patch 1.5 shot die quickly . patch 1.6 shot die slowly and spawn stupid . i think patch 1.4 is best . before patch 1.5 my ratio is 3.4 but 1.6 my ratio is 2.2 what the hell your team why you change frequency. when i shot enemy died then they reborn behind or in front of me immedietly

when your team will stop change ? you ll stop this when nobody play your game? you should think about customer

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Player spawn point updates being rolled out

We’ve started rolling updates to player spawn points on our multiplayer maps to alleviate circumstances where players were spawning too near or in critically advantageous/disadvantageous positions to their opponents.

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