Vote on potential playlists for UNCHARTED 2 Multiplayer

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We put up a new poll on the front page today inviting you to give us feedback on what you’d like to see for a future playlist within the Multiplayer mode of UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves.

By arne | Twitter @arnemeyer | Friday October 23 2009

We put up a new poll on the front page today inviting you to give us feedback on what you’d like to see for a future playlist within the Multiplayer mode of UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves.

To help with that, I got Justin Richmond, our multiplayer designer, to give us some more information on the different modes in the poll. Here is what he sent over:

We have been playing multiplayer furiously here in the office and it’s great to see you all online racking up the Cash and Skill Levels. Now we are looking to the future. To that end we are putting up a poll to see the possible directions you as players would be interested in seeing for our future playlists. We are listing five options in the poll, and below is a short breakdown about each one.

Plunder Only
All Plunder, all the time. No variations, nothing but capping treasure and shooting enemies.

Crushing: All Game Types
The Crushing variation on all maps with all game types. Crushing is a more hardcore version of our rule set where players have less health and no Boosters are active.

Crushing: Deathmatch Only
The Crushing variation on all maps in standard Deathmatch only.

Skilled Objectives
All Objective game types, but now with a Skill Level. Skill Levels are tied to each playlist, so all players would start with a Skill Level of 1 in this playlist, regardless of the Skill Level already achieved in the Ranked playlist.

Deathmatch Variants Only
All the Deathmatch variants including Sniper/Pistole, Pistols/Grenades, RPG’s, and Crushing.

We can’t guarantee that we’ll releasing the most popular playlist, but we really want to know what you’d like to see, so let us know what you want – vote and be heard!

If you have other suggestions feel free to comment on this post with your ideas.

Thanks!
Justin

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Posted by: KingDustero on 10-23-2009

Hey ND I have 74 supporters for the Deathmatch variants only playlist. Is it possible you could add two playlists? Like the deathmatch variants and crusing?

Supporters:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=uncharteddf&thread;.id=81367&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Posted by: HarpoMarx on 10-23-2009

plunder only would be great but please work on the level matchup problem..also i wish once someone drops you could pick up a new player and also id like to see the matchmaking process changed so that you just play the same people on differant maps instead of having to find new oponents everytime..any of these changes would be cool for me thanx..

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

Do you know which steps on Lost City make you pause while running up them getting you killed while carrying the treasure past the gunners. And yes, I know that the shield guys and gunners do not have the animation to hit you if you are carrying the treasure. NOW CHANGE THE $ REQUIREMENTS! ALL OF YOU GUYS AT NAUGHTY DOG MAKE YOURSELVES LEVEL X AND THEN HAVE NO FREAKIN CLUE JUST HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THERE. NOBODY WILL EVER REACH LEVEL 60 IF IT IS TRUE THAT IT TAKES $60 MILLION! I AM THE FIRST PERSON THAT BOUGHT IT ON RELEASE DAY TO REACH LEVEL 51 AND I AM STOPPING BECAUSE OF JUST HOW RIDICULOUS THE $ AMOUNTS TRULY ARE.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

Of course I play strictly for points. It’s fun, but it takes too long. A game like this should never require over 100 hours of grinding to reach the highest level. Come back to me when you reach Level 45 and tell me how much “fun” it is.

Posted by: arne on 10-23-2009

It’s not a race to the finish. Once you hit 60, then you’ll be wondering what to do next. We spent a lot of time working and tweaking the requirements to level up past 50 and this is what we felt was the best balance, even though we know you disagree.
(edited to fix 50)

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

I challenge anyone at ND to get to Level 60 LEGITIMATELY. When one of you do, then we’ll talk. Until then, reconsider the FACT that it takes AT LEAST 375 hours to get to Level 60 if all you do is play Gold Rush.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

And “wondering what to do next”?
I’ll stop playing. Which is what I plan on doing now, even though I am only at level 51.
Just wait until more people get to Level 50, then you will see more people complaining, trust me.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

“We spent a lot of time working and tweaking the requirements to level up past 60 and this is what we felt was the best balance”
No, you didn’t.
First clue is how everyone at ND makes themselves Level 60. And for the few “legit” players at your office, notice how they have probably had the game two or more weeks before me and they are only in the high 40s.

Posted by: arne on 10-23-2009

I can assure you that everybody that is level 60 in the office, has hit it through hours and hours upon gameplay. don’t forget—this screenshot you’re looking at is from our testing environment. And from our QA testers, who ware supposed to play a ton! I’d appreciate you don’t accuse us without knowing the facts.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

So they all played for 16.75 days straight with the current leveling system? And all they ever played was Gold Rush?
They never played Deathmatch?
Please give me some numbers or some facts to back up your claims. All I’m hearing is because I am an employee of ND and I said so.
I do not believe for one single second that ANY of those people got to Level 60 already.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

And also, I was playing with a level 60 from Naughty Dog and HE TOLD ME that is what they do (make themselves level 60). How in the world would I know that it takes $60 million total to reach level 60 if he did not tell me that as well?
And the level cap of 150,000 is another thing he told me (which is a really, really, really low point cap btw)

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

Not once did I ever say that this game was bad. It is an amazing game for sure. Probably in the top 5 or even 3 best games for the PS3. I’d even be willing to give it a 9.8/10
Just because a game is amazing doesn’t mean that there can’t be something wrong with it. And when it is the online portion that supplements the single player it really doesn’t equate into the verdict. They said that they can change anything they want “on the fly”. Well, I still haven’y seen those steps in Lost City get fixed.
Oh wait, that is because they don’t play Gold Rush.
Also, Point Cap at 150,000? Are you guys INSANE?
That is how I know you guys did not spend a lot of time testing and tweaking the online aspects of this game. I can get 150,000 points by round 4 of Gold Rush.

Posted by: CloudStorm87 on 10-23-2009

I don’t really care for new playlists tbh. The existing are still plenty. I’d rather see you guy do something to improve the matchmaking system, which takes too long and is often unbalanced. Unbalanced teams often results in more people leaving during a match. It’s a shambles. Please let other players automatically join places vacant on ongoing matches!

Posted by: Sekoku on 10-23-2009

Are you freaking kidding?

Level 21 me, with four level 1-5’s that don’t know/don’t have a good (*cough*Fleet Foot/Down the Irons*cough*) booster set up versus a level 30, level 28, level 19, level 5, level 1?

You’re telling me I kick the level 30’s butt despite the fact that I’ve never touched the skilled playlist? Really?

I refuse to believe me being steamrolled because of the team “balance” is a result of me being so much better than those other players.

Posted by: kentuckyfried on 10-23-2009

I completely agree with cloud...the playlists are fine as is. There are more pressing issues to cover, which I’ll try to summarize off the top of my head (they’re not just all online recs either, and some of them may be technically difficult or impossible, but I’ll mentioned them anyhow):

1) Might want to consider playlists that have no grenade launchers or RPG’s. These items are too dominating in TDM rounds.

2) Matchmaking should be faster; it seems to take an eternity, esp. if the round fails (the host leaves, etc).

3) Even if the host leaves, there should be a way to re-assign the host (as with the upcoming mw2).

4) The cover system is as frustrating as Gears of War. Please amend it to a simple “press and hold” system. All too often, keep getting stuck on cover when I see somebody sneaking up on me, or the relatively inability to to dive between two columns to grab a sniper rifle (this is an extreme example during the campaign).

5) More, more maps, please! Especially for co-op. I’m willing to throw lots of money at DLC if ND is willing to make the content.

6) an offline mode that plays like online, but with AI bots with adjustable intelligence (easy, hard, crushing, etc). Worked awesome for Killzone 2, wondering if it can be done here.

Some people want to buy this game but do not want to play online for some bizarre reason.

6.5) More spawn points, manual selection of spawn points, and better team balancing.

7) Split-screen support of co-op objective mode. Probably not possible for post-launch of game, but I know lots of people seem to want this.

8) Uncharted 3 announcement. lol. With a huge weapons list, like MGS4’s, and more appearances by Sully and Tenzin.

9) The removal of the Steel Fist trophy for Uncharted 3 - I still can’t get this darn thing!

I love this game. Thank for this wonderful gaming gift.

Posted by: arne on 10-23-2009

Just a couple of replies.

#3 - we have host migration in the game. If the host leaves, it will migrate the host of the match and provide a message that it’s doing that.

#6 - we don’t have plans to support an offline mode, our multiplayer is online only, sorry.

#7 - thanks, we looked into doing split-screen early on, but we weren’t able to do so without making unacceptable trade-offs in quality and experience.

Posted by: markcusd on 10-23-2009

>#6 - we don’t have plans to support an offline >mode, our multiplayer is online only, sorry.

How about just allowing us to start a Goldrush or Survival game with only one person in the party (for custom games only). That would satisfy my offline needs.

Posted by: magpie4life on 10-23-2009

Hi ND,

great work on the game. I have some issues with the game though.

Can you guys patch the game so that the loading for MP games will not be long. Also, my ps3 is connected wireless, and sometimes it takes close to 5 minutes to connect to the server when I choose the multiplayer option from the menu. My ps3 is really close with the wireless router too.

Thanks in advance!

Posted by: TaterSalad34 on 10-23-2009

I would be more than happy to see Crushing death match. Also, and this is just an off topic after thought. I was playing single player with the mirrored world option and perhaps online in the new modes there could be mirrored variations of the maps? I think that would be a nice little twist. Love the game though, this series has stolen number 1 on my list.

Posted by: vR-Nemesis- on 10-23-2009

Crushing playlists definitely, everything else is already there in one way or another. However, it can be hard to gather enough people in order to make a custom game to play crushing which is the only way right now.

So Crushing playlists 100%!

Posted by: Still-Lifer on 10-23-2009

Before you worry about playlists you need to get some dedicated servers up. Host advantage is obvious and leads to one team completely dominating almost every game I’ve played.

Then people start leaving, and since there’s no autobalance or any way to switch teams the entire match becomes a throwaway. This happens almost every match. It’s ridiculous.

Posted by: MadDave420 on 10-23-2009

PLUNDER only is a great idea. im always in those objective rooms looking to play plunder but i always end up getting off my PS3 without the satisfaction of playing PLUNDER!

COME ON PLUNDER ITS LOADS OF FUN. forget the crushing stuff guys.. regular deathmatch is good enough.

Posted by: MadDave420 on 10-23-2009

vR-Nemesis..

yeah.. plunder is in the game ‘one way or another’ but do you have any idea how hard it is to actually get a chance to play it.. its a great game. exactly like capture the flag.. only without the flag lol lots of fun

- PLUNDER !

Posted by: vR-Nemesis- on 10-23-2009

The point is you GET to play plunder. We DON’T get to play any crushing match however, unless we create a custom match and invite people.

I’m all for a plunder playlist, but a crushing playlist should come first, if not both at once.

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

Hey, look at me I’m a ND programmer that makes myself Level 60 and never understands how ridiculously long it takes to get there if I was a normal player.
Remember: If all you do is play deathmatch it takes a GOOD player 1,333 hours to get to level 60.
Surely the people at ND are smart enough to figure out that that takes far too long.

Posted by: KillaradoRida on 10-23-2009

Yeah if you suck!! lol I’m a level 38 in about 30 hrs! However i do want to know how people have the revenge perk at level 12 and shit?? Is there a cheat i don’t know about? I see alot of people using that one before the proper level has been achieved??

Posted by: GorgeousDre on 10-23-2009

If they suck? I have talked to enough people to know that a very good average in DM is $15,000. If you do the math at 20 minutes a match (granted, not all DMs go to 20 min) you will come up with 1,333 hours. Now, I have never played DM once because I knew from the beta/demo that GR is the fastest way to make money.
And you are Level 38?
Whoopty-freakin-doo.
You obviuosly don’t know what you are in for once you hit Level 45…

Posted by: weskerwannabe on 10-23-2009

I think the leveling up system is perfect. It’s slow and long just like Resistance 2 but that’s what makes it better. The more online content with more effort makes me feel like I’m getting my money’s worth. I want Skelzor. I hate when you can max your level so fast then have nothing more to try and unlock. Great work NAUGHTY DOG. Add-on content now LOL, I got the money set aside already.

I vote plunder only and deathmatch variant

Posted by: Draicus on 10-23-2009

You didn’t notice that all of those level 60 accounts were QA accounts? I’m willing to bet that they’re all communal accounts as well, not assigned to one tester or another. You know what QA guys do, right? Any one of those guys has probably put in a few thousand hours into just the multiplayer alone.

I think you need to take it easy. Respectful feedback from multiple people is the best way to get ND to realize that there’s something that needs to be fixed. Even without the feedback, once the whole of the active community gets stuck at level 55 because it’s too hard to rank up, they’ll know something needs to be fixed. Freaking out and attacking Arne isn’t going to get you anywhere… except maybe banned from the comments section for being so rude.

Posted by: zeroxsk8rx4xlife on 10-23-2009

deathmatch variations would be greatly appreciated, since i havn’t been able to play pistols and grenades since the game came out. and in all competitive modes my chances are very unlikely.

also i was disappointed that more weapons were not added to the multiplayer than what were in the beta. i was really looking forward to using new ones, and since there are plenty of weapons in the single player that aren’t in the multiplayer i don’t understand why this wasn’t done.

still a great game and i’m looking forward to the DLC.

Posted by: wikitywack on 10-23-2009

unfortunately i wont be getting this game until christmas =[ BUT i played the beta and i think hardcore/crushing would be great because i play hardcore in call of duty games =] so you have my approval for these playlists :D

Posted by: HecticKris on 10-23-2009

ok well done ND u have officially made the best game i have played in a long long time SP & MP wise im really looking forward to what Changes/Addons/DLC you come up with keep the good work!!

PS. GIVE ME MORE SKINS, MAPS I WILL PAY FOR THEM YOUD BETTER HURRY UP THO MW2 IS OUT SOON!!!! And you know most of you @ the office will be battering it also add me on PSN i wouldnt mind having a crack at some of the ND team online thx again HecticKris

Posted by: dark_cloud64 on 10-23-2009

I hope you make the money amount to get to 60 higher just to piss off that guy who’s been ranting about it. I don’t know how he could be so upset when he owns easily one of the greatest games in at least the last five years.

Posted by: Freiteez on 10-23-2009

I like the crushing aspect but I wish all of them were on there to be honest. Would be awesome to go into say deathmatch and then we get to choose “regular, crushing, sniper/pistole, rpg only” or for objective have “all, plunder only, king of the hill only, etc.” that way everyone is happy

Posted by: Noob-of-Sparta on 10-23-2009

I can not put into words how disappointed I was to see that the deathmach variants from the beta were missing from the full game. I would absolutely love to see those back. And I would also love to see a all plunder versus mode. It is the funnest variation of capture the flag I have ever played. Why not give us both. It seems like the majority of voters would like to see those as well.

I love Uncharted:DF, and U2 even more, thanks ND for some truly amazing games.

Posted by: GeoScore on 10-23-2009

Hey Naughty Dog.. I’m sure I speak for many when I ask this...(I am on my knees here) Please add more co op survival maps! I know you said you didn’t think you were going to do anything for co op, but I would shell out my hard earned money for any of your DLC Plus, is it really that hard to do seeing as how the survival maps were derived from competitive maps..with baddies added in? U2 is a fantastic game with fantastic multiplayer, and I would LOVE to keep the game in my PS3 even LONGER! LOVE YOU GUYS!!!

Posted by: Kornkid52 on 10-23-2009

game is sic, i play alot of ps3 and 360 love ps3 more, but til now there hasnt been a very competitive online game for ps other than cod series like to the last min. matches like u get on Galo or Gears(great game) this game is what ps needed we have great games like killzone R2 Warhawk Socom MAG(soon)for online shooting i play them all but i like small 5v5 matches and U2 is thee best..
1. i like the crushing type game play
2. need some FAL only matches
3. headshots only matches
4. on cinema mode allow us to rewind not to the beging of the match
honestly if u guys were to only add maps i would be fine but now ur addin more modes, askin for what we what.. u guys rule

Posted by: Dengarde on 10-23-2009

I’d love a Plunder Only playlist, Plunder is my favorite :D

Unrelated, ND, I would like to report a small glitch:

The taunt “Pump” seems to be enabled for players under level 53, even though the store forbids it. It seems as though purchasing the Chloe Winter Skin enables the taunt. Not sure why.

Posted by: hector2ortega on 10-23-2009

Well for starters I want to congratulate Naughty Dog for making an awesome game. Uncharted 2 is one of the best games I have ever played, I’m only one trophy away from the platinum and yes it’s the crushing mode trophy. The single player campaign is amazingly put together you guys and gals really put your hearts into it. The online gaming is also amazing. There is something I would like to say and it’s not about the game it’s about the people who complain about every little detail of the online gaming, now there’s nothing wrong with putting in your input about certain things but DEMANDING things is just down right retarded. There are just so many poor sports playing the game (GorgeousDre), that it makes me not want to even play sometimes online because I just end up arguing and cursing out someone just because I used a grenade, or just because I snapped his neck. And the funny part is? It’s all the high level weirdos (GorgeousDre)that are crying and complaining. I’m only at level 14 and I literally whipped out a team that all five players were at level 40 and up, and all I kept hearing was, “awe you suck cause you used a grenade” or “why you have to sneak up on me from the back?”.......BECAUSE IT’S IN THE GAME YOU F**KING RETARDS AND THE OTHER FUNNY THING IS I DIDN’T PICK THE DAMN PISTOLS AND GRENADES, SO TOP F**KING CRYING SO MUCH POOR SPORTS (GorgeousDre). Sorry for the out burst ND but people need to respect what goes into making a video game Oh and I’m also getting tired of people wanting to change things just cause it’s in MW2 or Halo this is not a first person shooter and its not suppose to be MAG which is just an online game it’s a single player game with one of the best online modes ever, so people(GorgeousDre), shut up and just play the game and this is not toward the people who want to change the small issue in the game just the retards (GorgeousDre)that thinks DEMANDING things will get there way.

P.S.Plunder only would be cool and the crushing mode for all the objectives would also be cool. And something to think about I like the Co-op section maybe some more maps and longer game play in Co-op, other than that keep up the awesome work ND you guys and gals rock!

Posted by: Outlaw213 on 10-23-2009

How about Snipers only mode? i am aware there is already Pistole & Snipers but i hate the fact that everyone just runs around with the Pistole hip-firing and never uses the sniper whats the point… i mean we need one thats just PURE snipers only.

I don’t know about this but sometimes the grenade damage radius can be huge, you will be meters away from the grenade yet it still kills you.

Also sometimes it takes ALOT of bullets to kill someone, might be just lag i don’t know.

I’d love the Crushing All Competitive Modes!

Oh and i got one more, how about the MP40 in the multiplayer? i don’t see why not, the more guns the better, it was already in the first uncharted and in the second too but we don’t get to use it much.

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Vote on potential playlists for UNCHARTED 2 Multiplayer

We put up a new poll on the front page today inviting you to give us feedback on what you’d like to see for a future playlist within the Multiplayer mode of UNCHARTED 2: Among Thieves.

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